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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    Didn’t want to start a new thread.

    But, if you were sitting at home thinking that the enemy isn’t already among us, take a look over here. Just a small thing, but indicative of where things are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicious_cb View Post
    Ha! The prosecution doesnt have a leg to stand on. He was working in Kenosha that day the rifle was given to him on site, meaning it never left the state.
    Forgive my lack of familiarity, but a -lot- of people seem to be excited about the possibility that Rittenhouse might have brought an AR style rifle from Illinois to Wisconsin. Some states do have odd laws. Is it illegal to bring an AR into Wisconsin?

    If the rifle is legal to own in Illinois and is also a configuration that is Wisconsin legal, I'm confused as to why 'crossing state lines' with it is considered such a defining event. It is not an NFA firearm. Presumably it could be used to ascribe a motive with premeditation on the part of Rittenhouse if he brought his own gun with him as if he thought he was 'on a mission.' but this is pure supposition.

    We now find out that the rifle was provided after he arrived in Kenosha, (from a Wisconsin resident?) and it changes the narrative considerably. It should defuze the premeditation angle for Rittenhouse, but it would open the door to a new problem: What happens to the owner of the rifle? Are they in legal jeopardy for having provided the rifle to Rittenhouse?

    Also, props to the young man for surviving with a 'loaner'. If you've ever had to use someone else's equipment for something important, you know what a gamble that can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    I’m not sure how people weren’t already in this mode.
    Because we're "not at that point yet"...

    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Who hands a teenager an AR to wonder around a high risk situation like that and was that legal? Obviously the M1 charge is political theater at best but I still have Qs to all that. What's obvious again is whole "he drove from another state with a assault rifle just looking for trouble" narrative is quickly falling apart.
    He wasn't "wandering" anywhere; he was with a group (so, likely with 'adult supervision' for folks whining about that), then went to help someone medically, then by the time that had finished the popo were rolling through the area and blocked him from returning to the group he was already with. Or so sayeth the last statement I saw on this topic.
    IOW, 'shit happens'.

    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    Didn’t want to start a new thread....Just a small thing, but indicative of where things are.

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    ROFL at the 'woodland' antifa flag patches; guess that was a special request for the Redneck socialist gun club?
    Also the irony of naming it after Dorner... Didn't end so well for his 'exploits' (which were also hardly 'revolutionary' in motivation)
    "Once we get some iron in our souls, we'll get some iron in our hands..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korgs130 View Post

    Forget 'Big Shootin' Iron, someone get me a "Roland" remix....

    Kyle was a young man/ from the ‘burbs of Illinois
    An EMT for hire/ AR rifle slung
    The commies getting violent/ on the darkened summer nights
    So he set out for Kenosha/ to join the bloody fight

    Through fifty nights of riots/ they burned up people’s stores
    With their fists up in the air/ swearing they’d take more
    Some folks had finally stood up/ ‘that won’t happen to me…’
    He went to clean graffiti/and help out the 'Noshanese

    Kyle the AR gunner
    Kyle the AR gunner

    His comrades stood beside him/ as the mob, they did protest
    He went out to help injured/ got cut off from the rest
    So the commies they decided/ they wanted Kyle dead
    That sonofabitch van-Huber/ took a skateboard to Kyle’s head

    Kyle the blue-gloved AR gunner
    'Nosha's bravest son (evens up the score)
    You can see the mob run off into the night
    In the muzzle flash of Kyle’s AR gun
    In the muzzle flash of Kyle’s AR gun

    Kyle kept on runnin’/ to turn himself on in
    Before the dust had settled/ the news had had a fit
    ‘Kyle is a racist turd/ we wish that he was dead’
    For without his trusty rifle/ they’d have filled him full of lead

    Kyle the blue-gloved AR gunner
    Kyle the blue-gloved AR gunner

    The eternal AR Gunner/ still wanders through the night
    And even decades later/ we won’t give up the fight
    In New York, DC, Washington/ in Portland and in Berkeley…

    Commie twerps
    Heard the burst
    Of Kyle’s AR gun
    And bought it.
    "Once we get some iron in our souls, we'll get some iron in our hands..."

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    How does the IL FOID system get involved in his rifle? I'm thinking that his parents are divorced and one lives in WI. The rifle was at that house and there are no FOID issues or interstate issues (if any).
    The Second Amendment ACKNOWLEDGES our right to own and bear arms that are in common use that can be used for lawful purposes. The arms can be restricted ONLY if subject to historical analogue from the founding era or is dangerous (unsafe) AND unusual.

    It's that simple.

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    I'm not seeing the whole operator level training angle.

    He was running for his life and reacting. He did more falling down than anything......not trying to be critical of the young man, as he has my full support for putting down these felons. I'm just not seeing any "John Wick" moves here. Maybe I didn't watch the video closely enough, I don't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post



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    Brutal, delightfully brutal.
    A true "Gun Guy" (or gal) should have familiarity and a modicum of proficiency with most all firearms platforms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpmuscle View Post
    You SOB, I spit coffee all over my desk...

    Well done.
    "SEND IT" happens to be my trigger words...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JediGuy View Post
    Didn’t want to start a new thread.

    But, if you were sitting at home thinking that the enemy isn’t already among us, take a look over here. Just a small thing, but indicative of where things are.

    https://www.etsy.com/shop/DornerTactical
    No, these are for the ANTIFA turds that want to LARP some Call of Duty at the protests. Odds are that any a**hole buying one of these has never had dirt on his body armor and couldn't clear a malfunction if/when his Poverty Pony rifle went down in a fight.
    "SEND IT" happens to be my trigger words...

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    Everyone I’ve discussed this situation with IRL I’ve been trying to stay on message and tow the “responsible” line. Namely that I think Kyle’s shootings were all legally justified but that this is an example of why you don’t put yourself in these situations unless you have to. Pick your battles and stay out of this shit unless you have no choice - as in, you need to directly defend yourself your home or your business, or the life, home or business of a third party to whom you have some personal obligation, like a family member or close friend. Don’t fast-rope into the middle of a riot and play Blackhawk Down.
    That’s what I’m telling people because, on an intellectual level that seems to be the correct answer. And I’m trying to be a reasonable, logical adult.
    Problem is that isn’t actually how I feel. The idea of taking the fight to these scumbags is really starting to become appealing to me on a visceral, reptile-brain level.
    I can sit here and remark on Kyle’s questionable decision making and tactics that led up to the shooting, and the potential lack of wisdom of being there in the first place.
    But the fact is that kid had the balls to go in, and actually slotted some commies in the process. And my reptile-brain admires that.

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