Cars you didn't know existed...

Cars you didn't know existed...

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Jobbo

12,973 posts

265 months

Wednesday 7th August 2019
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Shifter1 said:
Andy665 said:
The 1981 Audi Quartz concept by Pininfarina





Cleverly repackaged a number of years later and flogged to Alfa as the GTV
What makes that boxy coupe resemble the GTV are the 4 round headlights. The GTV is a beautiful rounded shape. Not a flat wedge type. If it wasn't for the 4 round lights nobody would mention the GTV.

Edited by Shifter1 on Wednesday 7th August 14:06
Hmm, maybe read this: http://thethinkersgarage.com/2013/12/27/the-develo...

Poppiecock

943 posts

59 months

Wednesday 7th August 2019
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Elesmart said:
1990's Lancia Kappa. A replacement for the Thema, which I didn't know existed:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1997-Lancia-Kappa-2-0-T...
They are lovely things. Shame they never made it to the UK.

carmadgaz

3,201 posts

184 months

Wednesday 7th August 2019
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Jobbo said:
Shifter1 said:
Andy665 said:
The 1981 Audi Quartz concept by Pininfarina





Cleverly repackaged a number of years later and flogged to Alfa as the GTV
What makes that boxy coupe resemble the GTV are the 4 round headlights. The GTV is a beautiful rounded shape. Not a flat wedge type. If it wasn't for the 4 round lights nobody would mention the GTV.

Edited by Shifter1 on Wednesday 7th August 14:06
Hmm, maybe read this: http://thethinkersgarage.com/2013/12/27/the-develo...
Look at that back end and tell me that isn't a wedgie version of the GTVs!

STIfree

1,904 posts

160 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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In South America at the moment and spotting a lot of cars that I've never heard of before.

The Volkswagen Gol is one of them. At first I thought someone had just knocked the 'f' off the back of the car but nope, its a whole model that has several generations.









STIfree

1,904 posts

160 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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Also, a few weird variations of Corsa's I'd not seen before






Unfortunatetly this is the largest image I can find of one, but its a Corsa B with a fairly modern front end, not sure if it came out after the next generation Corsa C.




phil y

548 posts

123 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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The pickup and saloon versions are also popular in South Africa, small pickups are very popular there, you could also get a version based on the mk5 Fiesta.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

136 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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STIfree said:
In South America at the moment and spotting a lot of cars that I've never heard of before.

The Volkswagen Gol is one of them. At first I thought someone had just knocked the 'f' off the back of the car but nope, its a whole model that has several generations.

Is that a saxo back end?

blearyeyedboy

6,305 posts

180 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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shakotan said:
You were saying?







TBH I think that's the reasoning behind the design, make them less stable so younger, less experienced drivers are more careful not to tip them over.

The reality, however...
I was looking at the physics of how to design 3 wheel "reverse trike" cars. Make them low, eye front track and have lots of weight in front of the front axle are all good ideas. (That's why a Morgan 3 wheeler has its engine right out at the front.)

These... Aren't a good idea. Far too much weight in the rear, far too tall for their wheelbase, too narrow a front track.

A Winner Is You

24,990 posts

228 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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Poppiecock said:
Elesmart said:
1990's Lancia Kappa. A replacement for the Thema, which I didn't know existed:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1997-Lancia-Kappa-2-0-T...
They are lovely things. Shame they never made it to the UK.
Maybe it had a glimpse of Lancia's future

biggrim

119 posts

176 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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blearyeyedboy said:
Dapster said:
Mars red
Go on, how long was it before it became Mars Orangy-Pink? biggrin
Mars red was ok IIRC. It was the Tornado Red that became Tornado Pink over time lol

BFleming

3,611 posts

144 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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A Winner Is You said:
Poppiecock said:
Elesmart said:
1990's Lancia Kappa. A replacement for the Thema, which I didn't know existed:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1997-Lancia-Kappa-2-0-T...
They are lovely things. Shame they never made it to the UK.
Maybe it had a glimpse of Lancia's future
Lancia is still trading. Just about mind you. The Thesis that followed the Kappa is worth a look. Beauty in the eye of the beholder etc, but I remember seeing one in the Vatican City back in 2003 - I love them!



ajprice

27,521 posts

197 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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BFleming said:
Lancia is still trading. Just about mind you. The Thesis that followed the Kappa is worth a look. Beauty in the eye of the beholder etc, but I remember seeing one in the Vatican City back in 2003 - I love them!


The rear lights of the Thesis are what Morgan use as the rear lights of the Aero 8



Hugh Jarse

3,528 posts

206 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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Obligatory back seat blob-eye Kappa story which i helped design.
Project kept asking for more headroom in the back so the rear seat squab kept getting thinner in depth.
Was a pope-mobile for quite a few years, cant have been that comfy for boney older arse.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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Lancia even with an aging model, has outsold Alfa in the EU. Crazy really

MarkwG

4,858 posts

190 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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Thesprucegoose said:
Lancia even with an aging model, has outsold Alfa in the EU. Crazy really
At the numbers they're talking about, it's the margin & the potential that really matters. The Ypsilon is old as the hills, based on the old Fiat 500, & they've got nothing else in the pot to sell as far as I can tell, whereas at least Alfa have a new model range to build on.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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MarkwG said:
whereas at least Alfa have a new model range to build on.
Yes and that what makes it even worse, Alfa really is struggling. People just don't buy beutity, and even in there home country.

BFleming

3,611 posts

144 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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MarkwG said:
Thesprucegoose said:
Lancia even with an aging model, has outsold Alfa in the EU. Crazy really
At the numbers they're talking about, it's the margin & the potential that really matters. The Ypsilon is old as the hills, based on the old Fiat 500, & they've got nothing else in the pot to sell as far as I can tell, whereas at least Alfa have a new model range to build on.
Plenty of other badge engineering has gone on over the last few years, but I see they've discontinued everything except the Ypsilon (Delta was sold in the UK as a Chrysler, 300C sold on the continent as a Thesis, and the worst of all, the Flavia. Tarnishing the fine name etc with this:

psi310398

9,130 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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Thesprucegoose said:
MarkwG said:
whereas at least Alfa have a new model range to build on.
Yes and that what makes it even worse, Alfa really is struggling. People just don't buy beutity, and even in there home country.
Alfa struggles in its home market partly because the taxes on decent sized engines that do justice to the marque are eye-watering and partly because the dealer network here in Italy is as st as it is in the UK, if not worse. There is also some manufacturer marketing confusion, methinks. At the Alfa Museum in Arese, they seem keener to flog Jeeps than the Giulia...so rather than capitalising on 100 years of the finest motoring history, they’ll push some ghastly plasticky agricultural Yank tank instead. If the makers aren’t proud of what they make, why should anybody else be interested?

Lancia has, of course, gone the way of all flesh and is irredeemable; nobody buys a modern Lancia magically expecting a modernised Fulvia. They are just cheap rebadged st boxes and bought by people who don’t give a stuff for motoring.

Triumph Man

8,699 posts

169 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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C70R said:
Elesmart said:
1990's Lancia Kappa. A replacement for the Thema, which I didn't know existed:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1997-Lancia-Kappa-2-0-T...
Jeez.

Even the car looks disappointed with itself.
Italian logic - move the seat back switch up which you expect to operate the headrest, oh no, it does the lumbar support.

Edited by Triumph Man on Thursday 8th August 12:20

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Thursday 8th August 2019
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blearyeyedboy said:
shakotan said:
You were saying?







TBH I think that's the reasoning behind the design, make them less stable so younger, less experienced drivers are more careful not to tip them over.

The reality, however...
I was looking at the physics of how to design 3 wheel "reverse trike" cars. Make them low, eye front track and have lots of weight in front of the front axle are all good ideas. (That's why a Morgan 3 wheeler has its engine right out at the front.)

These... Aren't a good idea. Far too much weight in the rear, far too tall for their wheelbase, too narrow a front track.
Many owners of original wheels at each corner variants manage to do the same

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