RE: Alfa Romeo Brera 3.2 S Prodrive | Spotted

RE: Alfa Romeo Brera 3.2 S Prodrive | Spotted

Wednesday 22nd December 2021

Alfa Romeo Brera 3.2 S Prodrive | Spotted

Remember when a better Brera came from Banbury?



Automotive collaborations like the Alfa Romeo Brera S, developed by Prodrive in 2007, don't happen too often nowadays. The Mountune Ford packages spring to mind, though they are far less comprehensive kits than Prodrive's overhaul was. That new cars are better than 15 years ago has probably played a part; ditto the advent of in-house tuning departments (because why share the money around?). And anyone who wants to really go that extra mile in modifying their cars is probably better served than ever by the aftermarket.

Of course, it wasn't always that way. Fresh from the Mazda RX-8 PZ and countless special Imprezas in the early part of the 21st century, Prodrive was approached by Alfa UK to revitalise the very pretty - but rather uninspiring - Brera coupe. At a reputed cost of a million quid, the boffins of Banbury spent a year reworking the Alfa, with 500 cars (split between the 2.2-litre, four-cylinder car, and the 3.2 V6) put on sale in 2008. It cost £24,950 as a 2.2, or £28,450 for the flagship - a £1,450 premium over their respective standard cars, and a price that ensured Alfa Romeo would cover their considerable outlay on the project.

The changes were pretty drastic for a mere 'S' badge. Prodrive fitted bespoke Bilstein dampers and significantly stiffer Eibach springs, dropping the Brera 10mm lower; new wheels saved a couple of unsprung kilos a corner; Brembo brakes ensured it stopped better and many months spent on B-roads all aimed to make the Alfa a more rewarding sports car for British customers. For the 3.2-litre model, Prodrive even went as far as removing the Q4 all-wheel drive, saving 100kg in the process.



The results were little short of transformative. "Prodrive's done sterling work to make the S handle like it does", said one review, praising the steering in particular as a "revelation" compared to the standard Brera; "Prodrive's chassis work releases its inner sports car, while weight savings give the performance more sparkle" read another. Finally, the 3.2-litre, V6 Brera was a fitting flagship to the Alfa Romeo range. If an expensive one. And still not quite as good to drive as the rear-wheel drive alternatives. But it showed admirable commitment to the coupe cause - Alfa cared about its reputation, and Prodrive delivered.

As the Brera was made in very limited numbers, the 3.2 S makes for an interesting modern classic coupe more than a decade later. There are plenty of Breras on sale from just £5k, various four-cylinder petrols and five-cylinder diesels that still look great but won't be much cop to drive, with this 3.2 commanding £14k. Partly that will be due to the condition - fewer than 60,000 miles, "stunning history", four new Michelins and a recent major service - but the Prodrive's reputation is what counts.

Now as then, the S commands more than a 3.2, but is well worth the premium - and its rarity only adds to the allure. What a shame, really, that Alfa didn't hand the wayward 4C to Prodrive as well - what a car that could have been...


SPECIFCIATION | ALFA ROMEO BRERA S

Engine: 3,195cc, V6
Transmission: 6-speed manual, front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 260@6,300rpm
Torque (lb ft): 237@4,500rpm
CO2: 260g/km
MPG: 25.7
First registered: 2009
Recorded mileage: 59,000
Price new: £28,450
Yours for: £13,995

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stavr0ss

Original Poster:

198 posts

129 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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Always saw this as a great looking hatchback but a rather awkward coupe. I’d want a busso over this..

cmvtec

2,188 posts

82 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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stavr0ss said:
Always saw this as a great looking hatchback but a rather awkward coupe. I’d want a busso over this..
Agreed on both views.

I think the Spider is far prettier than the coupé.

jamieduff1981

8,025 posts

141 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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I quite liked the look of these but the very high weight put me off. Whilst I wouldn't claim to know better than Prodrive, I imagine that even with 100kg saved, deleting power to the wheels you actually want driven and leaving power only to those you don't you don't would have been a tough thing to sell. If they'd managed to save the weight and leave it RWD I'd be all over this. FWD though? Nah. It might be quite good, but I can't bring myself to desire a FWD car.

Jim the Sunderer

3,239 posts

183 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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Sounds like the sort of bodge you see on 17 year old Land Rover Freelanders.

jamies30

5,911 posts

230 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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Article said:
For the 3.2-litre model, Prodrive even went as far as removing the Q4 all-wheel drive, saving 100kg in the process.
Not sure that’s entirely true, Alfa Romeo introduced a 2wd version of the 3.2 Brera just before the Brera S was launched. The story on the Alfa forums at the time was that Prodrive had done all the work on the 3.2 based on the Q4, and had to re-work it for 2wd in a fairly short timescale.

Edited by jamies30 on Wednesday 22 December 08:32

Pooh

3,692 posts

254 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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I had a slightly tuned 2.2 Brera S and I loved it, I chose the 2.2 over the V6 because it is better in the corners and not much slower on the road due to lighter weight and much shorter gearing.
With regard to the weight, Alfa made a lot of changes to reduce the weight of the car, including thinner higher strength panels and aluminium suspension uprights, my S weighed a little over 1400kg which is not too bad for what is a large and very solidly built car.

Hub

6,440 posts

199 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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stavr0ss said:
Always saw this as a great looking hatchback but a rather awkward coupe. I’d want a busso over this..
I always thought the GT was nicer - less of a blob (and of course has the right engine)... But actually now I think the Brera isn't ageing that badly.

pb8g09

2,348 posts

70 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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The tax and running costs on these versus the performance is what always puts me off when I have looked in the past.

The removal of the 4wd (or never having it to begin with as per the above post) is quite a deal breaker for me too. For £5k versions, I’d rather a Megane 225

Jon_S_Rally

3,424 posts

89 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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stavr0ss said:
Always saw this as a great looking hatchback but a rather awkward coupe. I’d want a busso over this..
Same. It's a great looking hatchback, but I just don't see it as a coupe. Same as the Scirocco of the same era. Another good looking car, but a hatchback, not a coupe.

jamieduff1981 said:
I quite liked the look of these but the very high weight put me off. Whilst I wouldn't claim to know better than Prodrive, I imagine that even with 100kg saved, deleting power to the wheels you actually want driven and leaving power only to those you don't you don't would have been a tough thing to sell. If they'd managed to save the weight and leave it RWD I'd be all over this. FWD though? Nah. It might be quite good, but I can't bring myself to desire a FWD car.
You're missing out on a lot of very good cars then.

cerb4.5lee

30,741 posts

181 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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I've always liked the way these look. Plus I'm partial to 6 cylinder engines too. I could live with FWD I think, but it isn't the preferred way to do it for me.

s m

23,243 posts

204 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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stavr0ss said:
Always saw this as a great looking hatchback but a rather awkward coupe. I’d want a busso over this..
Have to agree, a bit gawky looking for me - as if the front and back don’t really match in styling terms

A practical hatch though with a decent amount of shove but I think I’d prefer a 147GTA for a similar experience

ballans

794 posts

106 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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I always get tempted by these and the GT thanks to the looks and engine. Then I read the contemporary reviews (journos and forums) and they were never particularly glowing.
Are they really that bad?

Firebobby

543 posts

40 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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It's a good looking car with a good spec but!! High VED, High fuel consumption, it's an 8 grand car at best.

jinba-ittai

1,246 posts

211 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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The thing that spoiled the 3.2 to a large degree was the super long gearing.

Ideally prodrive would have fitted a mechanical LSD with a shorter final drive - would have improved it massively (but wouldn't have been possible as would need new MPG test cycles done I guess, but could have been offered as a dealer fit after sale)

smilo996

2,798 posts

171 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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Always loved the look of these and even now will crane to see one on the roads. The 32. V6 obviously a huge draw but it is an odd car from an odd and seamingly self destructive period in Fiat history.
It would have seemed better to leave 4WD or make it RWD than FWD and perhaps tune the engine to make up for it or deleted weight elsewhere.

GT3hopeful

247 posts

118 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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500 cars at £1,450 premium gave Alfa extra revenue of £725,000 or about £600,000 after deducting vat so don’t think they covered £1 million cost as suggested by article ?

TheMilkyBarKid

547 posts

30 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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I always felt these were so nearly there. Handsome if not genuinely beautiful, heavier than they ought to have been, and not quite on the money either in terms of outright performance or handling, though my neighbour who owned both a standard 3.2 and a Prodrive like this at one time did comment that the S handled much better.

It’s a shame they had the GM V6 in too rather than the Busso and cost a chunk to tax each year. For all that though I do still like them, though perhaps not as much as a GTV Cup which would be similar money

320DMIKE

5 posts

120 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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Those numbers don't work do they, or have I misunderstood?? £1,000,000 spent on dev as per the article on 500 cars with a premium of £1450 per car - £725,000 revenue....

I mean, I am not putting it past Alfa obviously, just wondered!

nismo48

3,722 posts

208 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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Totally agree
This just doesn't appeal at all..
Quite ungainly in appearancefrown


cmvtec said:
stavr0ss said:
Always saw this as a great looking hatchback but a rather awkward coupe. I’d want a busso over this..
Agreed on both views.

I think the Spider is far prettier than the coupé.

Drakey52

115 posts

142 months

Wednesday 22nd December 2021
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320DMIKE said:
Those numbers don't work do they, or have I misunderstood?? £1,000,000 spent on dev as per the article on 500 cars with a premium of £1450 per car - £725,000 revenue....

I mean, I am not putting it past Alfa obviously, just wondered!
Plus the cost of the new parts and fitting - feels like the £1,450 would just about cover that - so the 1M was a sunk cost.