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Sega Teases for new 2D Sonic(?) game - Project Needlemouse
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SonicMegaDrive
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That Sonic 'redesign' looks like a Klonoa character.
The one in pants, I mean.
The one in pants, I mean.
"All fell in love" isn't exactly the truth. But i suppose the fact no one said "Wtf is this kingdom hearts shit" is just as bad.riceandbeans said:This is why I hate Sonic fans and Sonic Team has been sucking so bad by listening to these morons...
Superfans at Sonic Retro were asked to redesign Sonic and this is the design they all fell in love with.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-bSZd1vM_A
thought this one was pretty funny-
HUELEN10
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This. It has great music, including one memorable boss theme...SonicMegaDrive said:
Work that sucker to death, come on now, work that sucker to death. Work that sucker to death, come on now, work that sucker to death! The war began, earth trembling fear, bold, brainy, and cold hearted.... this just grows closer, little by little, wow, the power he poses... is incredible, he doesn't stand a chance!
Love "Eggman's Voice" (if that would be even appropriate to call it) in this.
EDIT: You know, I should really post up my Sonic re-design. I'd either have to find it or re-sketch it, but I'd like to know what you think. It's kinda like a mix of Sonic Unleashed and Sonic Screensaver...
gwiz210 said:
I kind of prefer Toot Toot Sonic Warrior...
However, A Crush 40 remix could change all that. Not that it'll happen. if this is really a return to OG Sonic the Jun Senoue won't be involved in the OST.
SonicMegaDrive
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Why For? said:
I agree. When they redesigned his look for the Dreamcast, they 'fixed' what didn't need fixing.
Buttonbasher
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Reminds me of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTtivbqvAzIGreen Scar said:
Buttonbasher
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But they made a vow their mother would be found!HUELEN10 said:
I liked when Manic and Sonia started showing up in the Archie Comics. That was silly.
Azure Dream
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Buttonbasher said:
I thought they were only referenced in one Super Special?
That's also the name of Sonic's kids in 15 Years Later, but they're not the same characters, it was just a reference they threw in.
I think Jun Senoue has proved he's more than capable of composing/arranging old school sonic style tracksWiseblade said:
The Air (Windy Valley Area 3) - Sonic Adventure
Ocean Palace - Sonic Heroes
Casino Park - Sonic Heroes
Angel Island Zone: SSBB Remix
...but then again I'm a huge JS fanboy. I have a JS guitar pick and signed Crush 40 CD within arm's length right now.
Hitlersaurus Christ
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guys i redesined sonuc and also tals and nukles on m devntart pag
i hop sonci has gren eyes in this game and i hope sliver and shado wil be in the sequl
and GUNS
i hop sonci has gren eyes in this game and i hope sliver and shado wil be in the sequl
and GUNS
HUELEN10
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http://blogs.sega.com/sonic/2010/01/19/a-little-note-about-fan-elitism/
BTW, gotta love the "For the love of Tikal" bit.
Now this makes me happy, yet worried. It makes me happy because to me it means that it won't be 100 percent classic. It makes me worried because I know a lot of "classic fans" that will be upset because of this.
BTW, gotta love the "For the love of Tikal" bit.
EmCeeGramr
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HUELEN10 said:
still terrible people
Mama Robotnik
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HUELEN10 said:http://blogs.sega.com/sonic/2010/01/19/a-little-note-about-fan-elitism/
Now this makes me happy, yet worried. It makes me happy because to me it means that it won't be 100 percent classic. It makes me worried because I know a lot of "classic fans" that will be upset because of this.
BTW, gotta love the "For the love of Tikal" bit.
I was just about to post about this! Oh sod it, I'll just post the whole thing. Sega's Official "Sonic" blog says:
Its clear. The direction of this, this and this:
will not be abandoned, and forgotten. Sonic and his shitty little friends are not going away anytime soon. The continued fucking of the corpse of the most abused of all 16-bit icons will never end. The Sonic Cycle reigns supreme.
Needlemouse will be a side project, not a new direction. If it is any good (and lets face it, that's a big if), then we should savour it, as Shadow the Werehog Silver Guntits II is just around the corner.
Azure Dream
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The problem is they lengthened his spines in the first place because while that clasic Sonic artwork looked great in 2D, it didn't translate as well to 3D, especially in games where you're constantly looking at him from the front or back.
A classic design would work for a strictly 2D game, or a design with some clever tricks (the first Fairly Oddparents game would flip Timmy's hair depending on which angle the camera viewed it from), but for the 3D games, they had to change his design at least a little.
A classic design would work for a strictly 2D game, or a design with some clever tricks (the first Fairly Oddparents game would flip Timmy's hair depending on which angle the camera viewed it from), but for the 3D games, they had to change his design at least a little.
viciouskillersquirrel
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Huelen, have you been getting my emails/PMs?HUELEN10 said:
Crumpet Trumpet
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I don't like being told off by PR mouthpieces!
Minus 1 sale, bitch!
Minus 1 sale, bitch!
unless this turns out to be a good time, but let's be honest, what are the chances of that happening?
AwakenedCloud
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It's 80% of the games they play probably have Sonic in the title. I know from firsthand experience as my 17 year old cousin suffers from this syndrome. He plays the game, talks non-stop about them, and goes on to even write fan-fic about it. Needless to say, I keep my distance.EmCeeGramr said:
idofriar1313
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HUELEN10 said:
Lots of hate messages? :lol
Mama Robotnik said:I was just about to post about this! Oh sod it, I'll just post the whole thing. Sega's Official "Sonic" blog says:
Its clear. The direction of this, this and this:
will not be abandoned, and forgotten. Sonic and his shitty little friends are not going away anytime soon. The continued fucking of the corpse of the most abused of all 16-bit icons will never end. The Sonic Cycle reigns supreme.
Needlemouse will be a side project, not a new direction. If it is any good (and lets face it, that's a big if), then we should savour it, as Shadow the Werehog Silver Guntits II is just around the corner.
PLEASE
Don't take that blog entry seriously. It's not a statement by SEGA. It's an opinion being posted by a Sonic fan who works at SEGA. He loves the Shadow the Hedgehog. This is his personal site http://sonicwrecks.com/
Mama Robotnik said:
To point out something amusing about that post, it says that people shouldn't discredit the new fans simply because of when they jumped into things, but if those people can't see a bad game or product for what it is, and will actively ignore the good in favor of the bad, then that's not my problem.
To compare, that's like saying I shouldn't think badly of someone that likes the Phantom Menace, but hates the Empire Strikes Back, just because of the generation they come from. Just because Phantom Menace is new, doesn't mean it's good. It's a shit product, and no one should defend it, or savor a return to it.
HUELEN10 said:
What he wrote is an opinion, people need to stop taking it so literally, that's all I'm saying.
I also think it shouldn't of been posted on an official SEGA blog, because it does look like an official SEGA statement.
We heard from Mike Hayes himself that SEGA will be making two types of Sonic games from now on. Games for the Traditionalist and Games for the younger audience, cause as everyone can see, the Sonic fanbase can't agree on shit.
riceandbeans
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This is actually kind of... cool looking. Might actually pick this up if they can nail the controls as good as MK's.
HUELEN10
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I think you took a wrong turn buddy!riceandbeans said:
This is actually kind of... cool looking. Might actually pick this up if they can nail the controls as good as MK's.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=363106
There ya go. No biggie dude, used to happen to me a lot!
We don't know if it is going to be DL or retail, and the only platforms we know are getting it are PS3 and X360. Nothing more has been announced.ULTROS! said:
Slightly Live
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The main issues older fans have with modern Sonic games has mostly got to do with Quality rather than Content.
Sonic 06, Shadow et al aren't disliked on the basis of expanded characters or even the fans there of, it's simply that they are poor games. The trend is simply the less time playing as Sonic, the worse the games seem to get.
I'm pretty sure Shadow would have a ton more adult fans if the game itself wasn't a messy pile of poop.
Sonic 06, Shadow et al aren't disliked on the basis of expanded characters or even the fans there of, it's simply that they are poor games. The trend is simply the less time playing as Sonic, the worse the games seem to get.
I'm pretty sure Shadow would have a ton more adult fans if the game itself wasn't a messy pile of poop.
The Air was already one of Senoue's own (and dates back to his best era), I'm fairly certain Ocean Palace is one of Hataya's, Casino Park resembles classic tracks only in that he kept a guitar out of it, and AIZ SSBB added another guitar and then mixed both of them and the drums so loudly that the subtleties and bassline of the music are almost completely drowned out.gwiz210 said:
The man is not to be let near the series, especially a classic revival, until someone shoots his guitar.
To Far Away Times
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Mama Robotnik said:I was just about to post about this! Oh sod it, I'll just post the whole thing. Sega's Official "Sonic" blog says:
Its clear. The direction of this, this and this:
Really puts it in perspective how bad things have gotten. It's sad, really.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Screw that blog: the younger fans are wrong. They have no idea how much they handicap Sonic's potential.. They're defending Sonic junk food when they don't even realize they could be eating Sonic steak.. They don't even know how good Sonic could be, having grown up since he sucked...!
They think they want a few cute animals in a mildly interesting 3D game world. I can see how they think you'd be losing something by going back to Sonic by himself running in 2D.. "That sounds like "less" right? Those boring old fans want to take away my silly fun!" But those mere trinkets they love are a cheap diversion and they don't even realize that Sonic is capable of very solid gameplay fun. It's why he's even around to begin with. Crap furry mascots with bad gameplay don't sell in million dollar videogames for 20 years.. If this current direction for Sonic had been there from the beginning, he would have died out in the 90s along with Bubsy.
I see how the classic fan mantra of "kill the 3D and the shitty friends" would step on the toes of those who think that's what Sonic is.. But it's not like we're opposed to 3D/friends just because it's different from the old ones.. We don't want them gone because of nostalgia. It's because we know from 10 years of history that those things tend to completely negate the type of fun and gameplay style that old Sonics had.
Ignore these youngins.. They know not what they do.
They think they want a few cute animals in a mildly interesting 3D game world. I can see how they think you'd be losing something by going back to Sonic by himself running in 2D.. "That sounds like "less" right? Those boring old fans want to take away my silly fun!" But those mere trinkets they love are a cheap diversion and they don't even realize that Sonic is capable of very solid gameplay fun. It's why he's even around to begin with. Crap furry mascots with bad gameplay don't sell in million dollar videogames for 20 years.. If this current direction for Sonic had been there from the beginning, he would have died out in the 90s along with Bubsy.
I see how the classic fan mantra of "kill the 3D and the shitty friends" would step on the toes of those who think that's what Sonic is.. But it's not like we're opposed to 3D/friends just because it's different from the old ones.. We don't want them gone because of nostalgia. It's because we know from 10 years of history that those things tend to completely negate the type of fun and gameplay style that old Sonics had.
Ignore these youngins.. They know not what they do.
Regulus Tera
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HUELEN10 said:
What is it with you and your intimately deep knowledge of the Sonic universe? I mean, get a little perspective here.
HUELEN10
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In 5 more years when the kids that played shadow and 06 get older, do you think they will want classic style Sonic? Unfortunately of course not. They want what they grew up with. I don't think we will ever see Sonic go back to hi roots, but I am just hoping that all future games use the best of past games, and make it better. It sounds like it's a no-brainer, but this is Sega.BocoDragon said:
I don't follow.Regulus Tera said:
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